I simply don’t know what the world will look like, even in five years time. Given the “pitchfork” mentality that has struck so many of us in the U.S., I kinda wonder if something that happened starting about 200 years ago will do a flip-flop. Will people start migrating back to Europe to escape what the U.S. will soon become?
I know Europe is facing some of the same radical right-wing mentality problems as we are, but we are doing it in spades. If in spite all the evidence that the extreme radical narcissist who belongs in jail should become president again, I might be at the head of the mass reverse migration. I just don’t want to live in a theocracy that persecutes anyone who thinks differently than they do. This is pretty strong language, but I can see that scenario actually play out if people don’t come to their senses before it is too late.
Part of my daily routine, as discussed in yesterday’s post is to watch the TV series “House Hunters International” at lunch every day. Through that show, I have visited most of Europe and beyond. I’m pretty sure my roots come from England, so maybe that would be my destination. But, I do like the Netherlands, particularly Amsterdam.
I still remember my visit to Bishop Hill Illinois which was a community formed by a group of people who left their home country to escape religious persecution. Perhaps it would make sense to find others escaping the U.S. before it implodes. Doing a joint reverse immigration with a group of like-minded souls kinda makes sense.
I hope it never comes to that, but it doesn’t hurt to start planning.
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I have had similar thoughts. My wife was born in Holland. I suggested to her that we might want to move there after the 2024 election. She suggested Canada.
Thanks for the words, Rick.
Canada would be on my list if it weren’t so cold in the winter. But I really haven’t checked out much of Europe in that regard. I just hope and pray that there are enough sane people committed to stopping the madness of the radical right in our society. If we can just convince them that taking an hour out to vote, might very well move the radicals to the background once again.
I guess it depends on whether or not you think living in an English speaking country is important. If it’s not then you would definitely have a much wider choice. The other consideration might be rights. In many countries, non-citizen have fewer rights than citizens. For example voting rights, access to social services etc. In Australia, only citizens can vote and have access to the health insurance scheme and other welfare services, whereas in NZ all residents, citizens or not, can vote, and have the same access to health and welfare services, employment etc. My wife remained a Japanese citizen during her first 40 years of living in NZ because as a resident she had the same rights as myself in NZ while retaining all her rights as a Japanese citizen when she visited Japan. Now that she has NZ citizenship, she’s legally a foreigner in her homeland. Japan does not allow dual or multiple citizenship.
Yeah, NZ sounds like a very nice place to live. I will have to put it in at least the top 5. Maybe even the top 3. 😎 I just hope that it never comes to being necessary. But if the U.S. loses its sanity, it would be best to just abandon ship as soon as possible.
If the anti-democracy crowd continues on its present course, I see us splitting into two distinct “countries:” the Red states and the Blue states.
As things stand now California and New York have very little in common with Alabama and Mississippi. The ideals, governing principals, and understanding of what America should be are not even remotely the same. The citizens and leadership have completely different moral compasses.
Migration will occur to or away from the states that support banning books, telling women how to manage their own bodies, and that the color of your skin determines your worth as a human being.
We certainly seem to see the world pretty much the same, Bob. Several times here at RJsCorner I have tried to imagine how that split might be accomplished. I have my lastest possible map already on my new 3′ x 5′ white board. I think it’s time to put it in another post. Thanks for reminding me. 🥸
It is scary to me to imagine the current Supreme Court rulings for the next decade or two. Maybe that can be ameloriated when we put term limits on public offices. It just makes sense.
Betty has strongly suggested Canada, but, like you, it is too cold for me for at least half the year.
California is next door so it wouldn’t be too far from family. Its politics and climate are attractive, but housing prices make it a non-starter at the moment.
I admire your choice of words. I think that you are exactly right when you put the word “countries” into quotes. I reject the notion of civil war, resulting in the breakup of the US. I live in New Hampshire, a purple state, just as you live in another purple state. There’s no way, in my opinion, that purple states can choose one side or the other. Even the idea of individual states fracturing is unrealistic. In my predominantly Democratic area of southern New Hampshire, there is still a large pro-Trump faction who appear to have a general respect for letting people live as they want to live without imposing one group’s values upon another group.
My husband and I are full time RVing right now, but we’re looking to settle down somewhere soon. We were in Prescott Arizona which turned out to be not just dominated by one party but by the extreme end of that party. It wasn’t pleasant if you weren’t part of the clan so to speak. As we look for where to spend the next part of our lives – we are retired so our choices are fairly open as long as it’s not too expensive. A diverse, more accepting and open community is definitely part of what we’re looking for either in the US (preferred as kids and friends are still here) but migrating to another country could be a possibility as well.
I thought about Florida and Arizona but after visiting them and seeing all the global warming effects of droughts, forest fires, and heat, I have mostly discounted moving that far south.
Indiana, where I live seems to be a desired place regarding global warming. For the last ten years, we seldom get more than a couple of inches of snow at a time in the winter and temperatures have been very mild. And as far as I know, we don’t have a severe water shortage as much of the country does.
Indiana is a very red State, but if you choose to live in a college town such as Bloomington (IU country) where I live it is just about the opposite of Trump country that surrounds it.
I deem moving to another country as a last ditch effort when I see the madness has taken over.